An Open Letter to Penn State, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan
Dear JoePa/Wisky/Team Redacted/Big Blue:
Hi. You might remember my team. I am a follower of the one-time Next Great Big Ten Program. Yeah, that one damn near the bottom of the conference (thank God for Minnesota, right?) Well, we've become a guaranteed win for you guys (well, except for Illinois, but that wasn't our fault), and now I have a request for you. A plea, really, on behalf of the entire Big Ten Conference:
You were all there last year. Hell, two of you won bowl games against SEC opponents, but nobody paid attention to those games. Everyone (in particular, TWWL and the SEC blogosphere) dwelled on Big Blue's stomping at the hands of USC and Florida's destruction of Ohio State. It was so prevalent, in fact, that I had to trot out a pre-firing picture of Don Imus in refuting the now-common knowledge, that SEC speed kills. You all remember that Ohio State team, loaded with talent and destined to steamroll every team in the conference.

They were big. They were mean. They got killed to death.
That team was supposed to be the unstoppable juggernaut, so when they were stopped in such dramatic fashion, it became an indictment of us all. We're too slow. We're too big. We're stuck in the past. We're destined for extinction in the face of Florida's Ninja Football Attack, USC's never-ending string of running backs, and LSU's talent/gonads.
Now, we're mired in what is most certainly the worst Big Ten season in a generation. Michigan, you're playing well now, but there's still The Team That Shall Not Be Named and Oregon. Penn State, you've been positively meh. Wisconsin, you're disappointing. And Orson Swindle was right this weekend on Illinois: When your designated "up and coming" squad is being coached by Ron Zook, you have serious problems. Still, you four are our last line of defense, the last four standing in the way of the Big Ten Apocalypse.
Ohio State has played nobody. Their best win is certainly Purdue, who can only be classified as positively mediocre. They have been lackluster at times, particularly against Akron, Washington, and Michigan State. They are most certainly good, but they aren't one of the best two, or three, or five teams in the nation. Yet with the Mexican Standoff that is the SEC, and oddball losses by the other contenders, there OSU sits, at #1. Again.
The Mexican Standoff that is the SEC. Complete with jorts.
Someone must stop the inevitable from happening. Someone must keep Ohio State out of the national championship game, where any one of the cabal of LSU/OU/Oregon/USC/just about any other team with a single loss would wipe the floor with the Buckeyes. The other conferences (even the Big Fucking East) will have a field day. The conference simply cannot stand another nine months of the lambasting it's already taking. Do it for you. Do it for me. Do it for all of us. But, I'm begging you, for the love of God, someone - ANYONE - beat Ohio State.
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Is it too early to start calling the Buckeyes the Buffalo Bills of college football?
by Black Shoe Diaries on Oct 22, 2007 8:08 PM CDT 0 recs
I agree completely...
...right up to the point where we send out OSU as a sacrificial lamb to the pagan gods of football (although to say, with that schedule, that OSU is the only thing respectable about the Big 10 shows just how far the conference has fallen). I'd like to see the SEC go down as much as the next self-respecting Big 10 fan, but we stand a far better chance of that happening with Oklahoma or whoever wins the Pac-10 (except for UCLA; that's silly talk) than with Ohio State.
I don't think anyone, no matter how myopic an OSU fan they may be, can look at this team and, with a straight face, say it's the best team in the country. This isn't the sweater vests circa 2006. This isn't the sweater vests circa 2002 (who some might want to compare this team with, but took it to a good Texas Tech squad and Top 10 Wazzu before rolling through the conference). In fact, I think anyone who took a blind look at the undefeateds and the best of the 1-loss teams would see that Rock Chalk Jayhawk (do they use that in football?) has been better overall, as has 1-loss LSU, Oklahoma, and Oregon. So, while coasting to #1 on brand name alone isn't necessarily a bad thing, can't we all agree it's a charade?
by Hawkeye State on Oct 22, 2007 9:10 PM CDT 0 recs
See? I'd give you a substantive response...
...but I don't acknowledge the contributions of people who don't know the proper use of the word "dominant." OSU has the most dominant defense in the country, you idiot. Dominate is a verb, as in, "Florida would once again totally dominate Ohio State." Kentucky has played three times the schedule of Ohio State (then again, any team from the MAC has played a better schedule than OSU). Believe it or not, K State lost pretty bad to KU and is probably a better team than either Purdue or MSU (and that's coming from someone still licking the wounds from a Purdue asskicking). And as for being a "defeatist coward," well, I'm sorry to say the truth hurts, but you can't win. You're not as good as before, and they are better, and they beat you by 27 last time (thanks to OSU for not showing up for that Florida game, by the way, and making this whole thing necessary; you looked like Iowa, and that's not a positive).
But thanks for comparing me to Brian. That was very nice of you. Now get back to making fries, Mr. Katzenmoyer.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 22, 2007 10:04 PM CDT 0 recs
Sir.
- Implying that EDSBS is "shitty" is dumb beyond imagination.
- We root for nearly every Big Ten team. tOSU fans make rooting for all of them totally impossible. They have no sense of irony, humor, or humility. Please refer to the hyper-sensitive, room temperature-IQ comments in this thread.
- Re-read the post, numb-nuts. OSU losing and missing the BCS title game would be for the team's, and the conference's, own good. We're team players here.
by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 22, 2007 11:24 PM CDT 0 recs
...
The bat-shit crazy Bucknuts fans are out in full force. Awesome. Not only are they playing the holier-than-thou card, they're even playing the holier-than-spellcheck card. Now that's some shit!
Here's how it's going to play out. A shit-tastic OSU team is going to roll into the National Title game against the SEC team de jour. Said OSU team is going to be a two touchdown underdog. ESPN is going to run a month's worth of "the SEC team de jour is going to kick the shit out of OSU" segments. And OSU is going to win.
2007 has been fucked. No reason why it would suddenly start making sense in January '08.
See you in 2009, library masturbaters.
by stillnoanswer on Oct 23, 2007 8:13 AM CDT 0 recs
Wow
You guys all stopped jackin' it long enough to stop by our little corner of cyberspace. Thanks!
(And, yes, I just made a Carl Monday reference. If you want to use that as a reason to tell me I'm like Leitch, only not as good, I'll happily accept that. So far, you've said I'm not as good as Brian and Orson. We've all heard of the backhanded compliment, but I'd never actually seen the forehanded insult until the last 12 hours. It's like telling the president he's like Abraham Lincoln, only shittier. And as for Team Redacted, yeah, nobody else uses that.)
You Buckeye fans are incredible. Really, where else in the world can you find such a congregation of mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging batshit insanity. I'll ask the question: Who has a better schedule so far, OSU or Kansas? (Hint: it's not OSU) Who has better qualifications, an undefeated team who struggled with Akron and MSU and has beaten exactly one team in the top 25 (and #23 Purdue, at that), or a one-loss team who has beaten 4 teams in the top 20 and whose only loss was against a top 15 team on the road in triple fucking overtime? Without the Ohio State brand name, you're below Arizona State. But, please, allow me to genuflect before the majesty of your sweater vests.
You know what? You're right, I'm wrong. I want Ohio State to win out, go to the BCS Championship, get the shit kicked out of them - again - by LSU or Oklahoma, then convene all of the other teams in the conference and agree to disavow your actions and excommunicate you from the Big 10. Maybe you can join Conference USA. At least that would boost the literacy rates of both conferences.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 23, 2007 9:06 AM CDT 0 recs
Again...
I agree. I want to beat the SEC as much as the next guy. And if OSU runs the table, I'll ignore the idiots who show up and write about "double-wides" (seriously, does your next "insult" reference Billy Ray Cyrus?) and hope for a win. But to expect all of us to join in your Charge of the Light Brigade is foolish, especially when everyone who watches this team with an objective eye knows it's simply not good enough. You want to beat the SEC? We have plenty of opportunities, and Penn State and Wisconsin took full advantage last year. We could have been singing the praises of Big 10 football all offseason had your boys not dropped a massive turd on the American public. So, again, thanks.
Pull your head out of your ass or buy some gasoline and start a riot.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 23, 2007 9:27 AM CDT 0 recs
Smart move, Jebus
[digs hole, jumps in, props up AK-47, covers with leaves]
by Hawkeye State on
Oct 23, 2007 9:44 AM CDT
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Roger that!
[puts on a Warriors shirt, huffs gold spray paint]
by Oops Pow Surprise on
Oct 23, 2007 10:01 AM CDT
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Uh oh
[Wonders if the blog is now boobytrapped.] IS THAT A TRIPWIRE???
by benvious on
Oct 23, 2007 10:37 AM CDT
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Yes. Seriously.
Have you read Run Up the Score this morning? They wrote basically the same thing (OSU is good, as in 2005 OSU good, not 2002/06 OSU good), and it's remarkably quiet on that front. Jesus, you're even playing them this week.
I think, if you go back and read, at no point did I say OSU were "a bunch of pretending, shit-eating losers." Iowa sucks this season, and we all know that. OSU is pretty good. They just haven't played anyone (unlike LSU and OU), and they haven't killed the cupcakes (like OU, Oregon, and the Fighting Manginos), and they're loading up on the weakest Big Ten conference in 25 years (a la Big East Miami in the early 2000s). In other words, their qualifications are not on par with the other teams in contention. Combine that with what I've seen to date (and I've watched quite a bit of OSU this season, probably more than any year other than 2002), and I don't think they have it.
I don't discount OSU's chances in a BCS bowl game. I think they would give anyone out of the Pac-10, even mighty USC, a good game (though I don't think they would win against USC or Oregon). They simply aren't one of the top 5 teams in the country. If you feel otherwise, I have a pretty good idea of just who is drinking the Kool-Aid.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 23, 2007 9:43 AM CDT 0 recs
See...
You say last season is over, then trot out last season's Texas game as a sign of your scheduling prowess. That's what we call an error in logic, nimrod. Yes, you can only play who is on your schedule, but you can stomp Akron like the red-headed stepchild they are, and you can finish off Michigan State by halftime.
And you all make this about Iowa, as if it's relevant in the least to the conversation. Did you read the first paragraph? I'm conceding we aren't any good. It doesn't make you any better.
"We are good and that is all there is to it." That, right there, is really all there is to say. No reasoning. No logic. Just a simple statement from simple person. Tell me how this team is better than 2006. Tell me how it's better than LSU or Oklahoma. Until then, you're just blowing smoke up your own ass. While we may be impressed with your ability as a contortionist, it doesn't help your cause in the least.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 23, 2007 9:56 AM CDT 0 recs
That we can certainly agree on.
If OSU wins out, they'll have earned a spot in the title game.
That would mean, as you mentioned, that they've got road wins against PSU and UM. Those would be, far and away, the best two wins on their slate. As it stands right now, there are probably 10-15 teams that would go undefeated against their schedule thus far.
by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 23, 2007 10:36 AM CDT 0 recs
Let's hit the OSU checklist
- Myopic: CHECK
- Immature: CHECK
- Humorless: CHECK
- Logic-deficient: CHECK
- Hypersensitive: HOLY LORD CHECK
You are bona fide Buckeye, sir, and don't ever let anybody take that away from you.
by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 23, 2007 1:46 PM CDT 0 recs
I want...
the IQ points back that I lost back after reading Anonymous's "arguments".
I'm pretty sure my head just exploded by the belligerent use of run-on sentences, and misplaced, commas.
by dmbmeg on Oct 23, 2007 2:00 PM CDT 0 recs
Let us scour the interwebs
and rid it of any negativity concerning THEEEEE Ohio State University. How dare any peasant question the glory of the King's domain. We must all kneel before Him, sure to avert our gaze, lest we be struck down by the almighty Buckeye.
For some reason narcissism and snobbery come to mind.....
by Eubanks on Oct 23, 2007 6:11 PM CDT 0 recs
Actually
I am a division manager! I drive a Dodge Stratus! I can do 100 pushups in 20 minutes!
Lighten up, brah.
by Eubanks on Oct 23, 2007 7:56 PM CDT 0 recs
Hey HAL3
I have bookmarked this site for those days when I am feeling down. The more I read from you, the better I feel about where I am in life...and in the rankings.
This comment? This comment right here? This is why you fucking went to Ohio State, and we actually went to a good school. I have no problem reading constructive criticism from fans of other schools, but your comments are just proof of the blatant inbreeding that goes on amongst Buckeye fans. There is no other way to explain this. Was that comment meant to insult me? Cause I didn't understand half of it.
If you had any fucking clue what you were talking about, you would realize this site is extremely well written, hilarious, and self (by self I mean the Hawkeyes) critical--a concept you, HAL3, don't seem to understand.
If you want a Buckeye circle jerk, get off this fucking site.
Sorry to the blog administrators for the cussin'.
by dmbmeg on Oct 23, 2007 8:36 PM CDT 0 recs
C'mon Dmbmeg
You know no HAL3 has ever made a mistake, or distorted information. They are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.
Oops, I just made a 2001: A Space Odyssey joke....I better stick to the D&D type references, otherwise HAL3 will make additional sweeping generalizations about me and the things I say that don't fit in his simple, narrow mind.
I don't know what you're talking about, HAL
:)
by Eubanks on
Oct 23, 2007 10:03 PM CDT
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HAL3 (again)
Did you confuse this with an episode of "Yo Momma"? Judging by the wit and creativity of your "insults", I'd say your level of intelligence might be on par with that show. And I don't mean that as a compliment.
I actually hope you do play in the championship game this year, not because I'm loyal to my conference, which I am, but rather because I will thoroughly enjoy when a much better team bends you over and makes you their bitch. I will then sit there and smirk to myself knowing how at that very moment, Buckeye fans like you will collectively shut...the...fuck....up (again).
Oh, and OPS-
you forgot # 6. Delusional: CHECK. At least Iowa fans are cognizant of the fact we suck this year.
by dmbmeg on Oct 24, 2007 9:06 AM CDT 0 recs
Thanks for making my argument for me
I'll just go home now. That is all.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 24, 2007 9:18 AM CDT 0 recs
Thanks Sean
And stop taking pictures of your johnson, Mr. Salisbury.
I can't believe I'm getting computer nerd insults from a guy who signs off with the name "HAL3." What, R2D2 wasn't available, you ass?
by Hawkeye State on Oct 24, 2007 9:23 AM CDT 0 recs
Uh, read the post
They are most certainly good, but they aren't one of the best two, or three, or five teams in the nation."
Yeah, I criticized OSU like they are terrible. Also, please point out where I said I hate Tressel (we could all be so lucky to have a coach like him). Read before you write, dipshit. I'm not one for making overly broad comments, but you and the rest of your fanbase are a bunch of mouth-breathing reactionary rioting jackasses. How's that for Iowa spin, fucker?
by Hawkeye State on Oct 24, 2007 9:36 AM CDT 0 recs
BYE HAL3
We leave the comment threads open for anonymous commenters in an attempt to foster discussions. This way, you don't have to have an ID and you don't have to be a Hawkeye fan to speak your mind. You can say what you want, that's the point. We do not leave them open for people to offer to sexually assault women. I don't know if that plays well in Columbus, but it doesn't here.
I didn't address you all week because your comments proved you to be a fool. The more you write, the dumber you look, as with all idiots. However, when your first reaction when challenged by a woman is to threaten to assault them, it proves you to be not only of weak mind, but of weak character. First, you were just not smart. Then, you were not funny. Now, you're just not here.
Congratulations, you've been banned. Don't come back.
by jebushchrist on Oct 24, 2007 10:51 AM CDT 0 recs
Further
For anyone who is unclear on what is expected of you here at BHGP, I'd direct you to our Welcome Page in the diary section in the upper right hand column.
Thank you.
MGMT
by jebushchrist on Oct 24, 2007 11:03 AM CDT 0 recs






